Men’s Rights – The Issues

The Facts about Male Discrimination

Precious little discussion happens around issues that affect men, this is especially true in “gender” (aka women’s) studies courses in college. For the few men who already know about these issues, this will be an excellent page to link to in order to debunk the idea that men have it so good compared to women. And for those, who are open-minded (no feminists, that is not you), but don’t know the issues then this list will hopefully be a wake up call for you to, in the words of Men’s Rights advocates, “take the red pill.”

Warning: This is a very long list, over 22,000 words had to be dedicated to this mens issue page to adequately cover most of the issues. If you are an open-minded person, one who believes in equality for both genders and not just women, read through it all and send me your thoughts on our contact page…or if you are a feminist, feel free to send me your rage letter. 


Rape Laws and Policies

  • The April 4th “Dear Colleague” letter issued by the OCR to all colleges that receive federal funding, reduces the standard of proof required to convict a male student of rape all the way down to “preponderance of evidence” (anything above 50%) and “strongly discourages” male students being given the right to question their accuser. The directive also requires all universities to allow alleged victims of rape to appeal the results of college disciplinary hearings, subjecting the accused to “double jeopardy” (which isn’t allowed in US courts).

Click to see victims of this policy

  • U.S. Military, Washington State and the District of Columbia put the burden on the accused to show consent.

  • Federal Rule of Evidence 413 allows rape defendants’ prior sexual assault misconduct to be admitted as evidence in federal rape trials. This infringes on defendants’ constitutional equal protection and due process rights. Rule 413 departs from long-standing legal tradition prohibiting admissions of a defendants’ uncharged misconduct evidence to prove criminal propensities. This makes it so men who are accused of rape, are afforded less protections than any other crime.

  • Military charges more men with bogus rape claims to show that it takes sexual assault seriously.

  • Rape Shield Law – prevents the alleged victim of a sexual assault from having her past sexual behavior an issue in court. Cathy Young, writing for reason magazine, highlights the problems of such a law.

— In 1998, Jovanovic was convicted of attacking Barnard College student Jamie Rzucek (whose name has been disclosed by some media outlets after the case was dismissed) and was sentenced to a minimum of 15 years in prison. Rzucek claimed that Jovanovic held her captive in his apartment for 20 hours and subjected her to torture and sexual abuse. The defense argued that there was no torture — Rzucek’s claim that Jovanovic forcibly sodomized her was disputed by medical evidence, and the jury returned a not-guilty verdict on the counts pertaining to this act — and that the bondage was consensual.

This argument was crippled by Judge William Wetzel’s decision to exclude portions of the e-mail correspondence between Jovanovic and Rzucek in which she discussed her adventures in sadomasochism, including her sadomasochistic relationship with another man. The messages, the judge held, were inadmissible under New York State’s rape shield law because they had to do with the accuser’s sexual conduct.

In late 1999, the Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court, by a 3-to-1 vote, set aside the conviction on the grounds that Judge Wetzel had applied the rape shield law improperly and left the jury with a “distorted view of the evidence.” The case was sent down for retrial, but Rzucek proved reluctant to testify a second time, and prosecutors eventually sought a dismissal “in the interests of justice.” Jovanovic’s vindication came at a high price: as much as $500,000 in legal fees, not to mention 20 months spent in state penitentiaries.

— In Wisconsin in 1993, 18-year-old Charles Steadman was convicted of raping his 22-year-old foster sister Jessica in a he said/she said case in which physical evidence of force was absent and the defendant claimed that the sex was consensual. What the jury didn’t know was that when Jessica filed the complaint, she herself was facing criminal charges of having sex with minors. (She eventually received probation with mandatory psychiatric treatment.) Clearly, this gave her a reason to lie — particularly since she had had sexual relations with Steadman when he was underage. She might have thought that being a victim would improve her legal situation as a defendant, or she might have worried that if her encounter with Steadman became known, she would get in more trouble with the law. None of these possible motives could be introduced at Steadman’s trial, since Jessica’s legal problems were related to her past sexual activities and hence inadmissible.


False Rape:

  • The infamous Eugene Kanin study found a 41% false rape figure in a small metropolitan community. A follow up study, found 50% of rape allegations in college to be false. Among the false charges, 53% of the women admitted they filed the false claim as an alibi.

  • US Air force study confirms 60% of rapes to be false, a full 27% of the allegations were confirmed to be false because the woman admitted to making them up.

The above link comes from a Forensic website, not a biased feminist one, and concludes the following:

Empirical evidence does not support the widespread belief that women are extremely unlikely to make false accusations of male sexual misconduct.  Rather the research on accusations of rape, sexual harassment, incest, and child sexual abuse indicates that false accusations have become a serious problem.  The motivations involved in making a false report are widely varied and include confusion, outside influence from therapists and others, habitual lying, advantages in custody disputes, financial gain, and the political ideology of radical feminism.

From report:

The McDowell recruited independent reviewers who were given 25 criteria derived from the profiles of the women who openly admitted making a false allegation. If all three reviewers agreed that the rape allegation was false, it was then listed by that description. The result: 60% of the accusations were identified as false. McDowell also took his study outside the military by examining police files from a major Midwestern and a southwestern city. He found that the finding of 60% held

  • Also here is a Q and A with Mcdowell:

In an interview in the June 1985 issue of Chicago Lawyer, McDowell told Rob Warden, the editor. Q: How was the model developed? A: It is based on a study of 1,218 cases that were initially investigated as rapes. Of those, 460 were proven rapes, 212 were disproved allegations, and 546 cases remain unresolved.

Q: What were your criteria for classifying a rape accusation as disproved? A: There was just one criterion. In each case, the victim ultimately admitted that the allegation was a hoax.

Q: All 212 of those cases are now admitted to have been false allegations? A: Yes. That’s the reason that we have a leftover category of 546 cases. My personal opinion, based on the evidence, is that many of those also are false allegations. But they are not admitted hoaxes, and we have not classified them as disproved. We have been extremely conservative in classifying an allegation as false for purposes of the study.

Q: What were your criteria for classifying an allegation as proved? Are these all convictions? A: They’re not all convictions. Some are, but the remainder is cases in which the overwhelming preponderance of the evidence supports the allegation so strongly that there really is no other logical conclusion.

Q: Then your standard for classifying an allegation is false? A: Definitely. If there was a margin for error, if there was any area in which we gave the benefit of any doubt, it was in favor of a rape.”

  • Colorado’s Craig Silverman – a rape prosecutor – said the following about false reports:

“During my time as a prosecutor who made case filing decisions, I was amazed to see all the false rape allegations that were made to the Denver Police Department. It was remarkable and surprising to me. You would have to see it to believe it. Any honest veteran sex assault investigator will tell you that rape is one of the most falsely reported crimes that there is. A command officer in the Denver police sex assaults unit recently told me he placed the false rape numbers at approximately 45 percent.”


  • “Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have “matched” or included the primary suspect.”

The authors continued, “These percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice’s informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate.”

“If the foregoing results can be extrapolated, then the rate of false reports is roughly between 20 (if DNA excludes an accused) to 40 percent (if inconclusive DNA is added). The relatively low estimate of 25 to 26 percent is probably accurate, especially since it is supported by other sources.”,2933,194032,00.html

  • In addition the SAVE survey reveals false accusations (of all kinds) to be a real problem.

“A full 11% of respondents reported that they themselves had been falsely accused of some type of intimate partner or child abuse, and that they had been to some extent or another sanctioned for behavior that they never engaged in.”

Over eight of ten (81%) who said that they knew someone falsely accused answered that the falsely accused party was male. Nearly seven in ten (69.9%) of those falsely accusing were female. These results indicate very strongly that false accusations and their aftermath loom very large in the landscape of men’s lives. And while there are falsely accused females out there, the issue is one that can be fairly identified as generally an act of aggression against men

Here are the results:

1. Have you ever heard of anyone falsely accused of abuse? Yes – 51.6% No – 48.4%

2. Has anyone you know ever been falsely accused of abuse? Yes – 15.5% No – 84.5%

3. Was this person falsely accused of child abuse?* Yes – 74.0% No – 26.0%

4. Was this person falsely accused of domestic violence?* Yes – 28.9% No – 71.1%

5. Was this person falsely accused of sexual abuse?* Yes – 48.5% No – 51.5%

6. Was this person falsely accused in the last year? Yes – 17.7% N0 – 82.3%

7. Was the falsely accused person a male? Yes – 81.0% No – 19.0%

8. Was the accuser a female? Yes – 69.9% No – 30.1%

9. Was the accusation made as part of a child custody dispute? Yes – 25.8% No – 74.2%

10. Have you been falsely accused? Yes – 11.0% No – 89.0%

The Innocence project reveals false accusations of rape to be the most common form of false imprisonment.

Rape allegations, that are proven to be false, account for 17% of all allegations in the military. Note that the majority of rape cases fall into a “grey” area, where the could be true or false, so the 17% number is likely higher.

Click to see some examples of what false rape allegations can do

Boy Crisis

Boys are twice as likely to be diagnosed with “ADHD” as girls.

Boys represent 70% of the D and F students.

11th-grade boys now write at the same level as 8th-grade girls.

Boys commit suicide at 4 times the rate girls do.

Today, women outnumber men on 57% of campuses and enjoy a 3:2 ratio overall. By 2020, men’s enrollment is projected as low as 41.4%, down from 57.7% in 1970.

Boys are five times more likely to end up in Juvenile detention.

Boys are far more likely to be victims of a violent crime.


Despite these statistics, it is girls who still receive all of the gender specific goodies. Female only scholarships, White House Council for Women and Girls, Title IX grant program for women in STEM, and the Women’s Educational Equity Act are the known Federal level programs for women and girls in school.

Sentencing Disparity

  • Average sentences for same crime under similar circumstances (robbed someone with a gun, knife, etc):

Female – 18.51 months
Male – 51.52 months

In Britain, Judges are now ordered to “show more mercy” on female criminals when deciding what sentence they should be given.

  • Unfair sentencing doesn’t just pertain to men, but for boys as well.

Judge bashes Probation Department for gender bias in favor of leniency for girls

  • In North Carolina (and probably other states), it turns out that assaulting a female is a class A1 misdemeanor only if the attacker is “a male person at least 18 years of age”; every other type of assault when it comes to gender, is generally a class 2 misdemeanor. This can translate into a substantial difference in sentencing.

 Click to see examples of Female Sentencing Discount

Death Penalty almost exclusively targets men

Actual execution of female offenders is rare, with only 571 documented instances as of 12/31/2011, beginning with the first in 1632. These executions constitute about 2.9% of the total of confirmed executions in the US since 1608. Only twelve female offenders have been executed since 1976.

Women make up only 2.9% of those executed since 1976, but they commit 10% of all murder in the US.

Domestic violence

SUMMARY:  This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners.  The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

In addition; “the most comprehensive review of the scholarly domestic violence research literature ever conducted concludes, among other things, that women perpetrate physical and emotional abuse, and engage in control behaviors, at comparable rates to men.”

Domestic Violence Hotlines/Shelters (tax dollar funded), refuse to help or accept male victims of DV.

What happens when men call Domestic Violence shelters for help:

Of the abused men who called domestic violence hotlines, 64% were told that they “only helped women.” In 32% of the cases, the abused men were referred to batterers’ programs. Another 25% were given a phone number to call that turned out to be a batterers’ program. A little over a quarter of them were given a reference to a local program that helped.

Overall, only 8% of the men who called hotlines classified them as “very helpful,” whereas 69% found them to be “not at all helpful.”

Sixteen percent said the people at the hot line “dismissed or made fun of them.” One abused man said:

They laughed at me and told me I must have done something to deserve it if it happened at all.

Another said:

They asked how much I weighed and how much she weighed and then hung up on me…I was told by this agency that I was full of BS.

Twelve percent of the hotlines accused the man of being the batterer or responsible for the abuse. One abused man said:

They told me women don’t commit domestic violence — it must have been my fault.

Another said:

They accused me of trying to hide my “abuse” of her by claiming to be a victim, and they said that I was nothing more than a wimp.

Of the men who sought help by contacting local domestic violence programs, only 10% found them to be “very helpful,” whereas 65% found them to be “not at all helpful.” One abused man said:

They just laughed and hung up the phone.

Another said:

They didn’t really listen to what I said. They assumed that all abusers are men and said that I must accept that I was the abuser. They ridiculed me for not leaving my wife, ignoring the issues about what I would need to do to protect my six children and care for them.

Mandatory arrest policy

Thanks to the Violence Against Women Act, states are encouraged to enact “mandatory arrest” policies when it comes to domestic violence. This means that when someone calls the police alleging partner abuse, an arrest has to be made, even if the allegation looks to be false. Mandatory arrest policies completely ignore a Constitutional right known as “Probable Cause.”

Arrest the male

Thanks to “predominant aggressor” (aka arrest the male no matter what) policies, men who call the police on their violent wife are often the ones arrested, or threatened by police with arrest.

  • According to a study by George and Yarwood (2004), police have threatened 47% of male victims of intimate partner violence with arrest. George and Yarwood also found that the police ignored 35% of male victims and 21% were actually arrested instead of the female perpetrators

  • Another Study by Linda Kelly found that when abused men call the police to report domestic violence committed against them they are three times more likely to be arrested than the wife that is abusing them.

A good example of this is the case of Pro Fooballer Warren Moon. Moon was arrested after he tried to restrain his wife from assaulting him after she threw a candlestick at this head and kneed him in the groin. Police came, arrested moon and he was charged with domestic violence but only acquitted after his wife confessed that she was the violent one. Women’s groups were not happy and wanted Moon to be charged.

Child Custody

Women receive custody of the children in about 84% of custody cases

Paternity Fraud

Paternity fraud is rampant in the US.  In as many as 30% of cases, fathers are being forced to pay child support for children who are not theirs.

Click for examples of men being forced to pay CS for non-biological children

Boys Forced to Pay Child Support to their Rapist

In at least 3 states (California, Kansas and Tennessee), courts force boys to pay child support to their statutory rapists. In at least two other states, state officials attempt to get boy statutory rape victims to pay child support to their rapists.

Click to see examples of boys being forced to pay CS to their rapists


False Restraining Orders

Restraining orders are usually as simple to get as filling out a form correctly.

In 2005, Santa Fe District Judge Daniel Sanchez issued a temporary restraining order against David Letterman because, in her words:

Colleen Nestler alleged in her request for the order filed Dec. 15 that the Late Show host had forced her to go bankrupt and caused her “mental cruelty” and “sleep deprivation” since first sending her secret messages in May 1994. Nestler asked the court to require Letterman to keep a distance of at least three yards and to “release me from his mental harassment and hammering.”

She received this restraining order based on no proof of her ridiculous allegations.,,1144343,00.html

Temporary restraining orders are issued by judges without the respondent having legal representation, being allowed to present opposing evidence, or even being aware of the allegation. Thanks to state laws that have been lobbied to redefine “domestic violence” broadly, restraining orders are extremely easy to obtain.

Judges also rarely require proof of abuse, and the statutes invoke a “preponderance of evidence” standard (the same standard forced onto colleges in rape cases). In most states a temporary restraining order is followed by a full hearing 10-14 days later; at that time, a final determination is reached.

In practice restraining orders trample on Civil Rights of the defendants.

  • The accuser may have had weeks to prepare for the case, and is probably receiving free legal help. In contrast, the respondent has only a few days to find a lawyer and develop a legal strategy.
  • The respondent has limited access to evidence in the home that he may need to prove his innocence.
  • If the respondent has no money for legal defense then they may be forced to undertake more difficult pro se defense.

One attorney noted that “the mere allegation of domestic violence…may shift the burden of proof on the defendant.”

Take this court transcript from a hearing in which the respondent’s attorney requested the temporary restraining order to be removed:

Attorney to his respondent-client: “Can you please state your name and your address for the record?”

Judge: “I don’t believe I need to hear any evidence from your client. I’m going to deny your request to vacate the restraining order.”

Concerns about the misuse and unconstitutionality of Restraining Orders have been voiced in legal circles for years.

  • Elaine Epstein, former Massachusetts Bar Association, admitted “Everyone knows that restraining orders and orders to vacate are granted to virtually all who apply…In many cases, allegations of abuse are now used for tactical advantage.”
  • In Connecticut, attorney, Arnold Rutkin said that many judges view TOs as a “rubber-stamping exercise” and that subsequent hearings “are usually a sham.”
  • In Missouri, a survey of attorneys and judges found many complaints of disregard for due process and noted that allegations of domestic violence were widely used as a “litigation strategy.”
  • In Illinois, an article in the state legal journal described legal allegations of abuse as “part of the gamesmanship of divorce.”
  • In California, the State Bar admits it is concerned that protective orders are “almost routinely issued by the court in family law proceedings even when there is relatively meager evidence and usually without notice to the restrained person…it is troubling that they appear to be sought more and more frequently for retaliation and litigation purposes.”

In Washington State a TO reads:

“IT IS THEREFORE OREDERED THAT…The respondent is directed to appear and show cause why this temporary order should not be made effective for one year or more and why the court should not order the relief requested by the petitioner or other relief which may include electronic monitoring, payment of costs, and treatment.

Temporary restraining orders have been called “the gamesmanship of divorce.” One account to how damaging a false TO can be: “In ten days, the hypothetical husband has gone from having a normal life with a wife, children and home to being a social pariah, homeless, poor, and alone, trapped in a Kafkaesque nightmare.”

The following is a case account by a grandmother of the victim of a false TO of how a woman can abuse the system in her favor to get the father out of THEIR children’s lives.

In November 2002 Mrs. Soucie’s daughter-in-law decided to leave the family home, and opted to take along her nine-month-old grandson for good measure. “With the slow process of the court system, my grandson was concealed for 3 months. We missed his first Thanksgiving, first Christmas, first New Years, and his first birthday,” Mrs. Soucie sadly writes.

Finally the father, who works in law enforcement, was granted formal visitation rights. That’s when the nightmare began.


Somehow the mother got irate because dad and grandma wanted to see junior from time to time. And someone told her that under the Illinois Domestic Violence Act, causing a woman to feel even “emotional distress” is considered a form of abuse.

“In October 2003, my son and myself were placed under an Order of Protection. We did nothing to break the law, we did not harass, stalk, intimidate, or try to annoy. Our only purpose was to pick up the child and deliver him back at the appointed time.”


Apparently the mother told the judge she found dad and grandma picking up the child to be “distressing.”

The mother has learned the system and uses it to her advantage,” laments the disillusioned grandmother.

Box 1 – indicates there was no allegation of physical abuse. Instead, the wife accused her husband of “harassment” and “interference with personal liberty.”

Box 5 – on the basis of those allegations, the female shall receive custody of the children.

Box 7 – Orders that the children be removed from their father and allowed to see him only every other weekend until 6pm on Sunday.

Restraining Order

50% – the number of restraining orders that are given without so much as an allegation of physical abuse

70% – the estimated number of restraining orders that are false based on several studies by state.

Of 302 men who experienced domestic violence by their wives, 38.7% reported that she filed a restraining order against him under false pretenses.

 Click to see examples of False Restraining Orders

Title IX crushing Men’s sports programs


Title IX, once a gender equality law, has now morphed into a gender quota law that demands ‘proportionality’ when it comes to sports programs in college. Technically Title IX has three prongs of compliance, but the “safe harbor” prong has always been proportionality and it guarantees colleges will not be gone after by the OCR or the many whiny women’s groups. Because of these facts, the US commission on civil rights finally decided to weigh in and recommend Title IX be reformed to stem what it called the “unnecessary reduction of men’s athletic opportunities.”

Click to see Title IX ruining Men's sports

 Scholarship Discrimination

In sports where the gender compete, girls are awarded far more scholarships than boys are: 20,206 vs 32,656. Because of this, in every ‘gender symmetric’ sport (the one exception being gymnastics), boys face much more difficult odds of being able to earn a scholarship than girls do.

Hate Crime Discrimination

The DOJ will only investigate bullying cases if the victim is considered protected under the 1964 Civil Rights legislation. In other words, white males are the only group to be excluded from having their case investigated by the DOJ. 

War Dead  – 99.9% male deaths

Workplace Deaths

92% of workplace deaths are male.


Men are almost 80% of suicide victims.


Men are overwhelmingly more likely to be victims of homicide


Male Rape

“In 2011-12, an estimated 4.0% of state and federal prison inmates and 3.2% of jail inmates reported experiencing one or more incidents of sexual victimization by another inmate or facility staff in the past 12 months or since admission to the facility, if less than 12 months.”


62% of the homeless in the US are male.

Men have 0 reproductive rights


Girls are protected under law from circumcision, boys are not (his body, not his choice).


37 Responses to Men’s Rights – The Issues

  1. petey says:

    Wow, this was stunning, just stunning. I’m looking for some things like this. I’m writing a book about Misogyny and Misandry. Would you mind if I print some of those stats out? They are just astonishing. And just so you know, if you say no then I’m good with that too. I just think you did a really outstanding job. Scared the shit out of me. I’ve got a young son!

    • Donovan says:

      You can use/reprint whatever you want on this page.

      Glad you like the list and sorry for late approval for your comment.

  2. Marbran says:

    Great site!

    I called the cops once after my ex threw a liquor bottle at me, then hit me over the head with a laptop as I tried to go to the basement to get away from her. The cops looked at my head, saw the injury, talked with her separately, then asked me to leave the property. I refused, and they threatened to forcibly remove me, until my ex volunteered to go to her parents not far away.

    Crazy how that works, huh?

  3. Joe says:

    A lot of homeless men just live on the streets and sleep in the bushes and don’t go to shelters. Those don’t seem to be included in the 62% figure. Whereas I suspect far fewer women do.

  4. Connor says:

    Your link to Fathers and Families is 404ing, they changed their name recently to the National Parents Organization, so they need updating.

  5. Joe Wilson says:

    Excellent. You should also add something with regards to how men and boys are depicted in the media. How men and boys are demonized or made to look dumb….or how we exclusively celebrate woman and girl’s achievements (as a group) but never the reverse…. I guess the reason you didn’t mention any of this is because these issues are “qualitative” and difficult to measure.

    Nevertheless, great summary! Thanks!

  6. Michelle says:

    Thank you for this! It shows the pendulous ways of law and public opinion. Hopefully and especially with the current percentage of educated women, these inequalities can be leveled before a (perhaps even understandable) backlash swings us into another period of female suppression.

  7. Kristen Edelman says:

    Despite the fact that men don’t receive as much attention about their issues as women do, women’s issues, worldwide, are much more serious and are very much a human rights issue. Many of the things mentioned in this article are issues American men have. As well, many of the situations listed here men put themselves in those positions. If you don’t want to die in the military, don’t join the military. If you want a Bachelor’s degree, go get one. Men don’t have reproductive rights? Yes, they do. That’s why it is not an issue. Women have to fight for control of our own bodies. When was the last time men voting was an issue? When was the last time men had their salaries be less than a woman’s? I know men have these issues and they are serious, but they will never compare to the struggles of women. Not even close.

    • Donovan says:

      I’ve approved this comment for no other reason than to further expose feminism. You claim that many of the issues are because those stupid males “put themselves in those positions”?

      Ironic, because most of those ‘bad’ positions filled by men (such as the workplace or workplace death) are because of ‘gender roles’. You know, the ones that you feminists are always railing against (well, the ones that affect women at least). The men who are dying on the job are because why? Because they have a family to support and “a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do”. So, in other words, gender roles (something feminists complain about often), but according to you its because they “put themselves in those positions”.

      The other part of your comment regarding bachelors degrees, ALSO ironic. Women receive hundreds upon hundreds of FEDERAL LEVEL female only programs and laws in order to help them succeed, you can read about those on this page (yet women have it far worse according to you?):

      Some of those programs are in the education area, laws/programs like Female only scholarships, a Title IX grant program for women and girls, A WHITE HOUSE COUNCIL dedicated to them, and the Womens educational equity act – to name a few. BUT, again, according to you low male enrollment in college is because “men put themselves in those positions”??? It couldn’t possibly be because ALL of the help is being dedicated to the girls?

      NEXT. “Wage Gap”. OH LORD, this bs has been debunked a hundred times over:

      And, most notably by Consad Research Corporation – in their report to the DEPT OF LABOR:

      Some of your other rant:

      “Women have to fight for control of our own bodies. When was the last time men voting was an issue?”

      Facts for the feminist: MOST men did not have the right to vote either, that ‘privilege’ was dedicated to a small minority. OH and btw, I am not sure that you are aware but EVERYONE has the right to vote now…So I have to ask why you are bringing this nonsense up?

      Also btw, men actually had to defend their right to vote by signing up for the draft…over 58,000 men died in the Viet war and many of them were conscripted. How many women died?

      “Women have to fight for control of our own bodies.”

      Lady…Circumcision. Girls are protected, boys are not.

      “I know men have these issues and they are serious, but they will never compare to the struggles of women. Not even close.”

      Which is why you brought up a whooping two issues, one of which (“wage gap”) is completely fabricated in feminist mind. But I will bite, list your issues here and see how well they compare with the above 22,000 word list.

      Do women have to worry about keeping their due process RIGHTS? Do they have to worry about being sent to jail on nothing but an allegation (false restraining orders)? Do they have to worry about being arrested after being the victim of Domestic violence, or having to pay their statutory rapist child support? The list goes on and on and on.

    • Marbran says:

      “women’s issues, worldwide, are much more serious and are very much a human rights issue.”

      Donovan forgot to cover this one, so let me back him up.

      You feminists are absolutely silent about the open and public oppression of women in Muslim countries. Why are you so silent about that, and instead focus on the American male who has already been bullied into near submission by women who feel they are owed something because their ancestors were ‘oppressed?’ You white, Marxist women are no different than American descendants of negro slaves who claim they’ve been violated today because their great grand pappy suffered.


    • C.J. says:

      I agree with you on the boy crisis… It’s just people being stupid about school.

      Women have had abortion rights since Roe v. Wade.

      Women can abort a child without consulting the father at all. This is perfectly acceptable. It’s only right, then, that if the father doesn’t want the child, then he should not have to pay for it, as long as he warns the mother very early into the pregnancy. It should be the woman’s choice what she does with her body. It should be the man’s choice what he does with his wallet, at least in that circumstance.

      If men don’t like that, they are told to “keep it in their pants.”

      Genital mutilation is okay for boys, not for girls.

      The pay gap is 5 cents on the dollar and can be explained by personal choice.

      • Mitch says:

        Yeah, and lest we forget, the audience of hundreds of women at the show: “the talk” where they literally cheered, hollered, screamed, laughed, joked the Catherine Kieu story. The story where she drugged her husband, tused him up, waited for him to wake up, then, cut his penis off! and then put it in the garbage disposal. Women everywhere, joked, told her “you go girl” or ” teach him a lesson” put him in his place” “he probably deserved it” or, ” this story is so funny” etc…only served to prove, that men are way more compassionate and empathetic than women…WAY MORE! And of course, the women, being the selfish, narcissistic, cold, it’s ” all about me, me, me” individuals they all are, responded by turning things back to them. They almost all said: “what she did to him is no worse than rape, in fact, not as bad”…WTF? First of all, thus was not an issue about rape, it was about a man who was horrifically, premeditatedly DETROYED PERMANENTLY…UH, that means for life people! She ruined a man’s life, destroyed his masculine identity, forced him to have to urinate with catheters FOREVER! He can never have sex again!she emotionally destroyed him, mentally destroyed him, he probably at some point, will committ suicide(I wouldn’t blame him) anyone kniw what his “, crime” was? He filed for divorce! She tried for months to catch him being unfaithful boy putting tape recorders around the house..nothing ever became of it..he did nothing..thrn,bege tried to accuse him of abuse, could not prove it..why? Because it never happened! Face facts feminists, when a woman abuses her husband, it usat ALWAYS his fault!! I guarantee you all, that if the situation was reversed, not one man, anywhere woukd even think of laughing at the poor woman’s pain and mutilation…NOT ONE! I’m obviously a man, and I know what I’m talking abut here. We woukd all be indignant, and be calling for his head. But the women? They cheered…loudly! Laughed, jade open joking remarks etc..misandry is far more rampant than misogyny. All women harbor some degree if hostility towards men, especially our genitalia..feminist propaganda has poisoned women in the west. I got to tell you all, watching this show really hurt me (the women’s indifference and joy at his pain…while he was still in the hospital by the way!) GOOD JOB WOMEN..ridicule, mock, joke, and laugh at the mutilation of a Human being, on NATIONAL TELEVISION, while he suffers in the hospital! You all really made your gender endearing to men. I used to cherish women, love them, respect them, think they are special gifts to men from God….now?…not so much..I’ve become very jaded..I’m hurt by this, I’m forever disturbed, irreparably emotionally disturbed..I realize now what monsters a great deal of females are, in fact, not any better than nazis..luckily, I have a wonderful wife of 32 years, but she us HISPANIC, that Is why she is wonderful. AMERICAN women? #%€k EM! They are all self entitled, Whiney babies, little princesses, hypocrites, self centered, selfish, uncaring, unsympathetic (towards males) they gave it so good here, and yet, all they do us whine, and attempt to remain perpetual victims. By remaining victims, they never have to accept responsibility, and can remain childlike in their views of men, and life…oh, by the way…feminists always say that only men committ murder, and men all over the world are responsible for murder, mayhem, etc, and that women are the kind, compassionate, non killers etc…well…how about the over 55,000,000 babies you women have MURDERED since 1973? Oh, I forgot, it’s all about you, you, you…”your body, your choice” even when you are carrying another HUMAN BEING in ” YOUR BODY,” far as I’m concerned, 55 million murders. And counting, qualifies and elevates women to the exalted top of the list of mass murdering individuals…looks to me like we men can’t hold a candle to you women when it comes to murdering innocent human beings…” women are the most compassionate, caring, nurturing gender”… BALONEY!!!

    • Bill says:

      I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just willfully ignorant. When was the last time a woman couldn’t vote? 1920. Abortion and birth control are perfectly legal. Name an example of a man’s salary being less than a womans? Uh… my boss? I’m genuinely curious if you’re serious

    • Lawrence Newman says:

      Male genital mutilation. Legal in every country. Destroys sexual pleasure by removing the foreskin, where virtually all sexual pleasure comes from. More sexually damaging than any form of FGM in terms of the sexual potential removed from the victim.

      FGM is illegal in most countries, certainly all Western countries. Well over 10 times the number of men suffer from genital mutilation than women do.

      What do feminists, universities, the media and politicians talk about? All genital mutilation? No, just the female kind.

      Must be the patriarchy, huh?

    • Experiment 626 says:

      I see a lot of your points.
      Except this one: ” When was the last time men had their salaries be less than a woman’s?”

      In my industry (tech), woman are encouraged and will receive a higher starting salary. When have you seen a woman in the same position with the same years of experience and the same hours per week making less than a male counterpart? I have employed a lot of people and haven’t seen it.

    • Hart Ponder says:

      You’re right that women are greatly discriminated against in other places in the world. Nobody is arguing that.

      In the U.S., it’s the other way around.

      Women get paid as much as men do for doing the same job. The pay statistics that people assert don’t control for factors like:

      Women mostly work part time jobs than men, who work longer hours.

      Women are more interested in fields like Education, Biology, Medicine, and pediatrics, while males mostly gravitate to Engineering, Construction, Computer Science, etc.

      The pay gap is completely bogus, and Christina Hoff Sommers, a Feminist at the American Enterprise Institute, found these studies.

      Furthermore, men DON’T HAVE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.
      If a woman decides to have a child, and the man refuses to support it, in court, he HAS to pay money. End of story. While women can go get an abortion. What if the man wants to support the child, and the woman wants to abort? The court system favors the woman’s request almost always.

      Again. The only right we have is to wear a condom and hope to god it doesn’t break.

      Don’t join the military? What about the draft? Women couldn’t vote, yes. But did they have to enlist? No. Did they take on any financial responsibility? No. It was all burdened on the male. The male could go to jail if the woman complained that he was withholding money. Voting isn’t a “right.” It is a responsibility.

      Even under Sharia law in the middle east, all financial responsibility rests on the male. The male has to pay extra money if the woman wants to work and is financially responsible for transportation, clothing, food, etc.

      In Japan, the woman holds all of the money, while the male is responsible for making payments. How does that work? The man works his ass off, and the woman gets to give him an “allowance.” His own money is withheld from a woman who doesn’t have to lift a fucking finger.

      If they were compared to struggles of a woman to that of a man, it would eclipse woman’s issues entirely.

    • Jake J says:

      I think you missed the conscription part. Men must sign up for conscription. If they don’t, they face jail time. Conscription means that the goverment can make you go to war. Also, the author cites numerous cases from the U.K. and one from Australia. This article addresses modern issues. Women are allowed to vote in Western civilization. There are numerous studies that say the Pay Gap is not a result of sexism or that the Pay Gap does not exist at all.

      Yes, around the world, womens’ rights pale in comparison to mens’, but in the Western world, we most be careful to lose the balance between men and womens’ rights. So far, it seems we are over-compensating for women’s rights and men have begun losing some of theirs.

    • Jeff says:

      You’ve gotta be kidding me. Tell that to the judge who issued my BM a rubber stamped restraining order on me in the face of overwhelming evidence (including my own physical injuries from HER assaults, charecter witnesses, all female, who stated I would never harm my sig. Other.) proving her blatant fabrication. In fact, we have since reconciled and became friends and she told me her (pro bono government provided) lawyer INSTRUCTED her to file these false claims so shed win her case for custody. Meanwhile I was I the hook for $4000 in legal fees to a lawyer that told me, and I quote: “you’re a man, you have no chance of coming out of this in any way positively”. Tell that to DHS, who routinely sends me threatening letters informing me of their ability to take my assets, lisence, and imprision me for non payment of support (I by the way owe them ZERO in arrearage). Yeah, you’re right. Not even close. Tell that to my friend of 20 years who was accused of rape by his ex girlfriend simply because the relationship went sour and she was asked to leave his house.
      Yeah. Much much worse. You poor oppressed woman you. Tell me again how we have it so good.

    • Aaron says:

      “Men don’t have reproductive rights? Yes they do.” If a woman rapes a man, and conceives, she can force him to pay support. (Yes this happens.) If a women lies about birth control, she can do the same. However, if a /women/ doesn’t want a baby, aside from using contraception, she can abort, or give the baby up for adoption.

      “When was the last time men voting was an issue?” Men, on average, got the vote just a few decades before women. Universal male suffrage was given in exchange for conscription in WWI. However, women got it simply by asking for it, and they got it at the very moment a plurality of women wanted it.

      “If you want a Bachelor’s degree, go get one.” University admissions and scholarships favor women. Unprivileged men just go off and do work that women have no interest it — sometimes I suspect women don’t even notice: taking out the garbage, working in mines and sewers, that type of thing.

      “Women have to fight for control of our own bodies.” I’m pro-choice; however, I am aware of the argument that a fetus is a /separate/ life from the mother. There are plenty of pro-life women who believe in advocating for the life of the fetus.

      “When was the last time men had their salaries be less than a woman’s?” Men earn more money each year because they work longer hours, take fewer holidays, work more dangerous jobs, choose higher paying more isolated jobs, and take less time off for child rearing. Women spend most (80%) of the money. So men earn it, and women spend it. Pretty unfair, eh?

      Your point about the women’s issues being more important in the 2nd/3rd world is valid; however, we’re talking about justice in the 1st world.

  8. Cody says:

    Wow so im a writer whos been investigating the issue of men vs women for my local magazine and after days of wading through femenist websites and whatever male support groups decide to call themselves and before I write my paper I feel compeled to say something and this is the most recently active post that wasnt filled with lines and lines of how men suck so here is my two cents as somebody who believes that alot of men are indeed pigs ( im a man btw) but id hardly say even 60 percent are however are women any different than the monsters they accuse us of being? You say that men are sexist in the workplace? Tell me whens the last time a straight man was allowed to work in a makeup department or lingre store? Almost never because the simple fact is we are 2 different races and some things are just better to be left to the other. In general the opinion is we treat women like their objects well when you get dumb women who are famous simply for being lude (kim kardashian amongst other discrases) thats what creates that train of thought so mabey if women spent half the effort they spent on making men look less than human on publicly condeming actions like being idolized for being a skank we would gain respect for women who are making it known that people of ill repute do not represent their entire gender. So in short women do everything they accuse men of doing. so if you want equal treatment mabey you need to realize that we are indeed equal no better no worse than women and what id like to ask femenists out there is that if you crave for men and women to be equal then why dont women start opening the door for men? Or bringing us flowers and telling us were special? Or how about you pick me up in your car and pay for the date were going on? Oh yea men are expected to so those things in general but hey guess thats your sick version of equality.

  9. Tarnished says:

    That’s just the thing, Cody. Most women don’t want full equality…just enough to get the benefits without the responsibility. They want to be considered a strong, independent woman while taking advantage of federal and state assistance programs, asking for large businesses to have quotas, saying there’s a significant wage gap (there isn’t), and claiming that civilian women are the true victims of war rather than the men (and women) who’ve actually given their lives. Even something as simple as the continued desire for chivalry is misandric at a certain level, as it states that 1. Women deserve special treatment because they’re delicate/weak (not true) and 2. Men are undeserving of reciprocation because they are always strong/able (not true).

    That’s why I’m an egalitarian. I *like* buying gifts for my FwB and taking him out to dinner. I *initiate* sex every week to let him know how sexy I think he is and to show how much I want to share pleasure with him. True equality is letting your friends and/or lover lean on you for support and comfort regardless of their sex…it’s allowing men and women to have access to the same opportunities without giving one side an unfair advantage. It’s in understanding that men have issues in society just as much as women, and being willing to fight for your boyfriend, husband, father, brother, uncle, or male friends because you love them.

    *That’s* equality. Feminism is not.

    • Anon says:

      “Men have 0 reproductive rights


      Excuse me, but how on Earth is circumcision related to reproduction?

      Also, the Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines feminism as “the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities”, not “misandrists”.
      The thing about the whole “twelve percent of the hotlines accused the man of being the batterer or responsible for the abuse” thing, that is caused by the *patriarchy’s* belief that men are stronger than women.
      True feminists fight for the rights of male victims of abuse and rape, as well as the women.
      Also, you’re not taking into account the fact that society pressures women into either “admitting” that the rape din’t happen or simply not reporting it.
      “1 out of every 6 American adult women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).
      About 3% of American adult men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1
      15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.2
      73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger. 2
      1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused before their 18th birthday.
      93% of juvenile sexual assault victims know their attacker.3
      34.2% of attackers were family members.
      58.7% were acquaintances.
      Only 7% of the perpetrators were strangers to the victim.
      Nearly 50% of all victims of forcible sodomy, sexual assault with an object, and forcible fondling are children under 12. 5
      Victims of sexual assault are:
      3 times more likely to suffer from depression.
      6 times more likely to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.
      13 times more likely to abuse alcohol.
      26 times more likely to abuse drugs.
      4 times more likely to contemplate suicide
      Sexual assault is one of the most under reported crimes, with 60% still being left unreported.
      Males are least likely to report a sexual assault, though they make up 10 percent of all victims.
      While about 80% of all victims are white, minorities are somewhat more likely to be attacked.” These are the rape statistics according to

      • Donovan says:

        Yes, I know feminists love spouting over-exaggerated “rape” statistics to “prove” how oppressed women are. Unfortunately for them, every single “study” on rape that concludes a ridiculous figure like “1 in 5” or “1 in 6” does so by including everything from actual rape to “drunken” sex and being “pressured into sex by nagging”. See:

        Also, this line is typical:

        “the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities”

        Oh look at that. Another dictionary definition spouting feminist. ACTIONS speak louder than words, and you and your feminist cronies actions have given you a (rightfully earned) reputation as manhaters:

        Enough with this dictionary definition crap. Have an actual argument please.

        Finally this:

        “Men have 0 reproductive rights


        Excuse me, but how on Earth is circumcision related to reproduction?

        Obviously you can’t comprehend. Those are TWO SEPARATE issues. Understand? Never did I try to claim circumcision is related to reproduction.

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  13. Hannah says:

    “That’s just the thing, Cody. Most women don’t want full equality…just enough to get the benefits without the responsibility. ” I am quite sure that it is just a sweeping generalisation, however I don’t have any data to support my claim. To only provide anecdotal evidence – I know a lot of women (as I am one myself) and I the vast majority criticises the false accusations and the (sometimes passive) agressive attitude towards men as such. Remember that when a woman falsely accuses a guy his whole family suffers with him, other women too (like the aforementioned grandmother). Sadly, I know at least two such cases. What also worries me (and many others) is the fact that while American feminists are happy to provide support to American women they don’t care about what happens in Muslim countries and they attack even Muslim women who speak against the women rights abuse. I am from Europe so there is a chance that I don’t understand the scale of the misandry in the US and it is much worse there but I simply hope that after some time people will come to their senses. I am a bit afraid that if we hold on to distorted images of males and females and generalise then nobody will be truly free and safe( as we will start hating each other – it is easy to see that many men are already disgruntled and they vent their rage on the forums where they express their hate toward all females in general) and nobody will be satisfied (to say the least). It is definitely a lose-lose situation. I would also like to know if you see any solution to this problem. I am really scared that if this trend persists then the “beloved” and defended muslim culture and sharia law will “solve” it and I am not looking forward to it! Sorry for my broken English by the way;)

  14. Janet says:

    My son is currently in a case that will start 1/14/2015. A recent divorce and shared custody, his exwife is accusing him of attempted rape. She has been given a TPO for herself and my grandson. My son is facing attempted rape, kidnapping, child endangerment, disrupting public service and abduction. No evidence. Her word against his word. Nobody seems to care. Any suggestions?

  15. B.I. says:

    Hey, wanted to add to this page. Here are two websites for all of you out there.

    Domestic Violence Against Men

    #ViolenceIsViolence: Domestic abuse advert Mankind

  16. Gabe says:

    A very well written article that was highly informative. You’ve done a tremendous amount of research and should be commended for your efforts. I applaud your work. I, myself am a progressive who fights for the cause of human rights regardless of sex, gender identity, race, social class etc. and because of this am no fan of feminism. Although I acknowledge the good the movement has done for the human rights of women, I loathe their path of destruction to human rights of boys and men. And because of this, I consider them a hate movement. A few points of criticism that might help you improve this and/or future articles.

    For some of the injustices you cite, the majority (51%+)aren’t being victimized. For example, you cited victims of paternity fraud equate to 30%, where men are forced to pay child support for children that aren’t their own–a good percentage, but not demanding as much attention as others (ie Mandatory Arrest–75% of male spousal abuse victims who report their wives are arrested instead of their spouses). You also don’t cite which feminist organizations support such horrific policies and have lobbied to pass them into law (ie the Violence Against Women Act and Mandatory Arrest). Being able to show definitively how feminists have backed institutionalized misandry will give your articles more credibility, rather than leave the supporters of these injustices to the imagination of the readers–we don’t know that feminists have supported and passed these things into law & policy unless we see a direct link.

  17. ... says:

    And this is only all the ways that males are abused by society. But feminists want to claim we are “privileged.” Anyone who denies such privilege is labelled a misogynist who oppresses women. This is fucking bullshit though, females are privileged in so many ways, to be told that we are somehow oppressing them is really fucking irritating after all the support and advantages they get in society because we’ve given it to them.

    1. Men’s feelings are never taken into account, all problems are solved with the man being told he has to man up and figure something out by himself whereas females always receive support even if the issue is really minor. So many emotional issues that men might have get ignored whereas women get lots of support. If a woman has low self esteem people believe she’s just humble or doesn’t recognize what a great person she is. A male with low self esteem is considered a pathetic loser.

    2. Men do not marry into wealth at nearly the same rates as women do and even the men who are wealthy do not get to enjoy their wealth nearly as much as the wife does because he is spending much more of his time working than the wife is.

    3. Females are allowed to engage in behavior all the time that would be considered sexual assault if males did the same. I’ve seen females grab each other boobs or other guys dicks without asking many times and nobody really gives a shit. Despite the fact that males will receive sexual harassment or assault charges if they are too forward and blunt, men are still expected to make the first moves and be the initiator of every single sexual step knowing that every step could land us in serious legal trouble. Females can do whatever they want sexually with no legal consequences and often no social consequences either.

    4. Promiscuous females are considered empowered, progressive, or independent by most groups in society now. Promiscuous males often get called douchebags, assholes, creeps, or even misogynists not because they are any of those things but simply because people don’t like their sexual behavior. Even the word slut, the only real insult that could be used against a promiscuous female, has no real power if you don’t let it because it doesn’t carry any additional associations. You can be proud of being a slut because there’s nothing actually wrong with it but obviously there is something wrong with being an asshole or misogynist.

    5. Its not uncommon for females to get drinks paid for, dates paid for, and even have random stuff just given to them for free all the time. This never happens to males.

    The list really does just go on and on and on. So excuse us for being angry when feminists call us privileged or accuse us of oppressing women after all the things we do for them and all the horseshit we have to put up with from society.

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